Opponent down near center, and why I never see the move

[tvirusinfected]

So now we have The Raging Dragon Jun Kiyamma, his finish is call Raging Fire and it's the Flying Double Knee Attack which is a corner to center attack. I have this move tagged for 100% for large and critical yet I never see it. I'm ok with it being a special move but I would like to see it more often. Are there other stats that need to be raised in order for this move to come out, such as showmanship?

As always everyone's input is appreciated.

[IamAres]

You need more strong grapple moves that stun. I mean, technically you only need one, but more moves increases your odds.

This would be any move in strong grapple (NOT the weak+medium, "special" slot though) that leaves the guy down and doesn't pin or submit (or have a priority assigned after.) Basic strikes or combos are good for this, as you won't mind seeing them more often.

All of the above applies to diving standing moves, as well.

You can also make sure your guy does the front headlock drag a fair amount, like in the 10-12 percent range. It won't stun on its own, but it'll help keep the match lined up and near the center, which will increase your odds.

Finally, these moves are gonna be on the rarer side, even set at 100 percent, you might not see them every match, but this should help you see them more.

[tvirusinfected]

I'm so sorry, but could you give a bit more detail to the strong moves that keep people down.. is there a list of dizzy making moves?

[tvirusinfected]

Oh wait I looked it up, your saying the strong move grouping. When I was playing the tutorial it said something about putting a slightly weaker move in there so that the wrestler becomes dazed. Is that the trick or do all the big moves that are put in the big move slots cause the dazed reaction?

[Dawnbr3ak3r]

The opponent needs to be Dazed practically dead-center or the C2C Attack won't happen.

To set this up, you can use the Super K Combo in Corner Running Attacks, or a few different Corner Grapple Moves: Vertical Suplex (or Vertical Brainbuster; The one that looks like an actual Vertical Suplex - This game's naming conventions suck), The Reverse Frankensteiner, Tiger Suplex, German Suplex, among others. As long as the opponent lands near the center of the ring, it should work every time, or at least most of the time.

[tvirusinfected]

Feb 11, 2019 0:28:54 GMT Dawnbr3ak3r said:

The opponent needs to be Dazed practically dead-center or the C2C Attack won't happen.

To set this up, you can use the Super K Combo in Corner Running Attacks, or a few different Corner Grapple Moves: Vertical Suplex (or Vertical Brainbuster; The one that looks like an actual Vertical Suplex - This game's naming conventions suck), The Reverse Frankensteiner, Tiger Suplex, German Suplex, among others. As long as the opponent lands near the center of the ring, it should work every time, or at least most of the time.

I will try this during my next session, thank you.

[Timberwolf]

Feb 10, 2019 19:44:27 GMT tvirusinfected said:

So now we have The Raging Dragon Jun Kiyamma, his finish is call Raging Fire and it's the Flying Double Knee Attack which is a corner to center attack. I have this move tagged for 100% for large and critical yet I never see it. I'm ok with it being a special move but I would like to see it more often. Are there other stats that need to be raised in order for this move to come out, such as showmanship?

As always everyone's input is appreciated.

First, good to see you have the Masahiro Chonos avatar back ;)

Second, like everyone has said, set up the C2C move that places the opponent near center such as a top rope suplex or the super kick combo on the post move.

But what people didn't say is how often do you want to see the C2C move. If you consider it a finisher such as a spear for Roman Reigns, set it for 100% in large damage. If the move is not a finisher or signature like say, a shining wizard, maybe set it at 40 or 50% with the other percentages allocated to the running while opponent down move or not done at all. All depends on the edit and his/her style.

My Roman Reigns clone uses the C2C spear as her finisher. She sets it up with the top rope German suplex from the corner grapple, which I have at 50%. From there, the move places her opponent in the center of the ring, which kicks in her C2C spear, which I have at 100% in large damage.

100% might seem like a high number for a C2C move which may seem like the move could be spammed, but getting the opponent in the center of the ring is hard enough, so setting a high percentage to a C2C move makes it very likely that you will see the move.

Oh yeah, and if the C2C move is set as Finisher, it can critical. It can be sick when that happens ;)

[Blehschmidt]

Agreed with Timberwolf, as a finisher, setting it at 100% is not a bad idea at all. I have a guy using the Kinsasha, and even at 100% I am lucky to see it once a match in a normal 1 vs 1 setting.

[dnmt]

There are some corner moves that put the opponent in perfect position for a corner-to-center move. Check out the Avalanche Brainbusters and the like. Much easier to set those to be a frequent occurrence in logic. And if you have the C2C move at 100%, you don't even need a priority chain as the edit will go for the move every time after they hit the regular corner move.

EDIT - obviously Dawnbreaker beat me to it. But yes, the 2nd rope brainbuster move absolutely works for this.

[DefLeppardVanHalen]

Feb 11, 2019 0:28:54 GMT Dawnbr3ak3r said:

The opponent needs to be Dazed practically dead-center or the C2C Attack won't happen.

To set this up, you can use the Super K Combo in Corner Running Attacks, or a few different Corner Grapple Moves: Vertical Suplex (or Vertical Brainbuster; The one that looks like an actual Vertical Suplex - This game's naming conventions suck), The Reverse Frankensteiner, Tiger Suplex, German Suplex, among others. As long as the opponent lands near the center of the ring, it should work every time, or at least most of the time.

The Monkey Flip is another perfect setup.