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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 24, 2019 8:14:47 GMT
My bad; I forgot to post my findings from the other day. Basically, it appears that the Irish Whip Counters are bugged. It appears that the Medium Counter Move will activate no matter what percentage you have the moves set to. I suggest not using a Submission or Pin Counter in the Medium Slot. I'm not sure if they'll ever fix it, or if it's intentional (probably isn't). I never really noticed it and it doesn't bother me so much because the edits I have that have flash pin Counters do a ton of flash pins anyways. Thanks for testing this out 😎 Are you totally certain it's always just the Medium Counter slot though? A few minutes ago I saw a match where this situation happened but the move (the elbow butt) came from the Small counter slot. I'm fairly certain it was late damage too. Granted, I'm not using the life bar mod so I don't know 100% for sure it was Large Damage. However, the spot happened 16 minutes into the match and the edit who did the counter elbow had just used a Large damage Rear Naked Choke submission (from back grapple) just a few seconds before it occurred and the opponent doesn't have recovery on High. And they also just did three soccer ball kicks which are only accessible to him in the largest damage section for down moves. You probably had a chance to test it out more systematically though with the life bars. |
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Nov 24, 2019 9:27:44 GMT
My bad; I forgot to post my findings from the other day. Basically, it appears that the Irish Whip Counters are bugged. It appears that the Medium Counter Move will activate no matter what percentage you have the moves set to. I suggest not using a Submission or Pin Counter in the Medium Slot. I'm not sure if they'll ever fix it, or if it's intentional (probably isn't). I never really noticed it and it doesn't bother me so much because the edits I have that have flash pin Counters do a ton of flash pins anyways. Thanks for testing this out 😎 Are you totally certain it's always just the Medium Counter slot though? A few minutes ago I saw a match where this situation happened but the move (the elbow butt) came from the Small counter slot. I'm fairly certain it was late damage too. Granted, I'm not using the life bar mod so I don't know 100% for sure it was Large Damage. However, the spot happened 16 minutes into the match and the edit who did the counter elbow had just used a Large damage Rear Naked Choke submission (from back grapple) just a few seconds before it occurred and the opponent doesn't have recovery on High. And they also just did three soccer ball kicks which are only accessible to him in the largest damage section for down moves. You probably had a chance to test it out more systematically though with the life bars. More times than not, it was the MED Counter slot. If it's not a bug, then it might be an issue with Damage phases. I've yet to install the latest ModPack, so I don't have the health bars active. |
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 24, 2019 9:50:28 GMT
Hmmm, maybe it is a bug with damage phases. Interesting idea 💡
Maybe an edit's logic gets confused when they aren't the one irish whipping the opponent and yet the opponent is running at them. This was not a scenario that edits before FPW often found themselves in. Perhaps the edit goes back to early damage logic in this situation even if the opponent should be in late damage.
I'll have to pay closer attention but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Small and Medium counter slots used when only the Large counter slot has logic set for late damage. Maybe it has to do with the specific logic set for weak damage which is causing one slot (small or medium) to occur more for each edit I see it happen with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 15:44:04 GMT
It's very specific though, there has to be a way they can work on it, since it only happens in non-irish whip. That would be nice to have as a category.
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Post by Love Wilcox on Nov 25, 2019 16:12:45 GMT
Weird. I have an edit that has: European Uppercut Rush (that has them stand up dazed) -> Jump from post Big 100% European Uppercut Rush -> Taunt 3 100% If his opponent is within range, he'll almost always go for the jump from post move (though occasionally he'll jump up and then get down again then taunt)
After posting this I went back to the edit in question just to confirm my prior experiences. He does indeed go for the jump on post big when the opponent is in range, however I did notice something a little odd. Every once in a while he'd hit the Uppercut Rush near the turnbuckle, climb the turnbuckle and then perform taunt 3 (despite having taunts at 0% when on the turnbuckle) and then hit his from post big move xD
Fire Pro is crazy guys.
Also...
Yea, I've too noticed the running counter / irish whip issue. For me it seems to be with the med slot like Dawn said but tbh I haven't been able to sim that much lately so don't take it as gospel.
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Post by OrochiGeese on Nov 26, 2019 6:19:24 GMT
I'll take it as Goospel 👼
And yeah, there's a lot going on in this game that is kinda messy. I don't know if Spike "checked their work" on all the possible interactions and spots that could happen. The run counter thing is especially bizarre to me.
I still really like that they can counter running attacks (and it's usually better than when they just walk away) but it annoys me that they revert to an earlier damage logic situation when the opponent is in large damage.
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Post by wrasslinisreal on Nov 26, 2019 15:15:09 GMT
Quick question. How do you unlock the grizzly bear edit parts? I've completed the mission mode's 50 'quests' if you will (not to S standard for all of them) and I thought completing the quests (not even to S rank) would unlock these parts. Do I have my wires crossed? Thanks.
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Post by markrocker on Nov 26, 2019 15:59:57 GMT
Question for those who also have the game in PS4. Where do I put the ring mats and aprons for use in the game?
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Post by faulknasty on Nov 26, 2019 18:30:26 GMT
Steam sale on fire pro and dlcs except entrance craft.
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Post by markrocker on Dec 7, 2019 21:49:33 GMT
Does anyone remember the Fight Style - Critical percentage guide? I'm trying to find it, and last I remember is that it was a website, but I can't remember wgich one.
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Post by Love Wilcox on Dec 8, 2019 8:38:16 GMT
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Post by markrocker on Dec 8, 2019 13:37:40 GMT
Thanks, man. I appreciate it. |
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Post by ligerbear on Dec 9, 2019 0:03:43 GMT
Quick question. How do you unlock the grizzly bear edit parts? I've completed the mission mode's 50 'quests' if you will (not to S standard for all of them) and I thought completing the quests (not even to S rank) would unlock these parts. Do I have my wires crossed? Thanks. its all available from the start. no unlocks needed |
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Post by wrasslinisreal on Dec 9, 2019 11:22:30 GMT
Thanks for confirming this ligerbear . I don't know why the parts are not showing at all. Will have to double check. |
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Post by Dawnbr3ak3r on Dec 9, 2019 11:46:31 GMT
Thanks for confirming this ligerbear . I don't know why the parts are not showing at all. Will have to double check. Make sure you don't have any of the parts filtered. That can cause things to not appear normally. |
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