Fire Pro Wrestling World General Questions Thread [PC/PS4]

[OrochiGeese]

Jul 5, 2019 23:07:42 GMT faulknasty said:

I wanna clear up what I was originally trying to say about squash matches being hard to fit into the system is that I had already learned that squash matches can't be done unless by complete luck like everyone had been saying. I only bring this up because everyone is talking about this and it has completely gotten away from the help I was really looking for. No hard feelings to everyone answering about squashes, I know everyone is trying to help which is why I come to the boards and really enjoy my time here. Just wanted to get the ship back to talking about filling out complete move sets.

LOL sorry I totally missed that point in my post as I was mostly replying to replies to your message.  I basically played "telephone" there, haha.  All hands on deck, let's get the ship sailing again! ⛵

I want to say more but for now I'll just briefly say that my overall strategy to building movesets is to work backward from my Finisher + 4 Specials so that each of those signature moves has moves at the early/mid portion that logically builds to them.  I also make sure to have at least one signature strike for each wrestler that will usually be reflected in some way in one of their signatures (almost all my edits have at least one striking special).  But I also try to have some moves that aren't necessarily "true" to that wrestlers style or a mere prelude to their specials.  Those deviating moves are ones that I feel fit the edit's character really well.   Something I can see them doing at a moment of frustration or arrogance or confusion or just to vary things up so their opponent can't catch on.  Otherwise I feel like I just end up building template movesets for "style" edits rather than movesets that are true to a character.  It can't all be building to a finish since sometimes wrestlers do moves and react for reasons other than technical wrestling strategies.

[jameshilliv]

Sometimes it's as simple as scrolling through the moves until one stands out and looks like something your wrestler would do.

[Recall]

I do wish the moves were better organised.

You generally find the a lot of wrestlers do moves that build to their finish indirectly rather than just focusing on a body part.

Daisuke Sekimoto of Big Japan Pro Wrestling his finish is the deadlift german suplex. In reaching the point where he gets to deliver it is simply about beating his opponent down so soundly that he can apply it. He uses lariats, and a splash off the top and general hoss moves. He doesn't go about focusing directly on the opponents back unless the match calls for it.

So go with moves that add personality or uniqueness to your edit, a spot or move that when done is a highlight of the wrestler regardless of their finish. Don't always go too narrow.

[zodiackiller]

Including mods..

How do I get the game to list the last TWO moves like in Returns? Sick of seeing a match ended with Double Press Pin

[Shiftygism]

Are running dives super rare? I've got my Junior's logic at like 80% and the "do nothing" option at 0% (leave ring is at 0% too). I can't get any stuns setting up the dive, my guy just moves back to the center of the ring and chills. It probably all comes down to my moveset which lacks any lifting moves, which cuts down on ring out situations, I wish there was a logic setting for the battle royale toss out, that would help a bunch.

[faulknasty]

Curious about this too. I've never seen an outside dive in any of matches.

[jetlag]

Dives are best set up by irish whips to the outside and late in the match, so turn up those percentages, like 40 % irish whip is fine for most juniors. They are rare but they happen.

[IamAres]

Dives are rare, but not like, "I've never seen one" rare. Before mods, I probably saw a dive in like one out of two or three matches for guys that do them.

A high Irish whip chance helps, so does a high showmanship setting (like 80 to 100) - this determines if they'll throw the guy out when they're in position (or to the corner, for that matter) instead of whipping normally.

Some people recommend setting moves with a higher fall-out chance (which includes vertical suplexes and bodyslams for some reason) to strong grapples so they can produce fall out > stun > dive moments, but I never went that route myself.

[Recall]

Jumping Brainbuster near the ropes is what you need. It’s a nice standing move that lets a wrestler tumble to the outside that then can be followed up.

[Fuee]

Any of the non-snap and non-vertical brainbusters will drop them out of the ring
Also the samoan drop, for some reason

[OrochiGeese]

There are costs/benefits to each approach:

Irish whipping to outside:

Good:  Keeps your edit standing.  The vertical suplexes will knock your own wrestler down which occasionally robs them of the opportunity to perform the outside diving move on time. Their own recovery time will frequently rob them of the opportunity to taunt before they do the outside diving move. 

Bad: A lot of wrestlers who do dives to the outside also do cool irish whip moves.  In order to have your wrestler be more likely to throw the opponent to the outside with an irish whip, the "personal traits" setting has to be high. But in order to have your wrestler to be more likely to throw your opponent to the ropes with an irish whip, "personal traits" has to be lower. So you're left with a situation where you have to decide what you prefer and what balance to have.

(That same "balance" exists with a wrestler who has a run/run counter special and a corner special).


All in all, I prefer the irish whip set-up approach. I use minimum 20% irish whip and minimum 90% "personal traits" setting for wrestlers who do a lot of dives to the outside (whether it be over the ropes or from the corner post).


Sadly, even the edits best equipped to do outside dives won't always do them due to RNG issues and the fact that some wrestlers will just no-sell getting up dazed. No "dazed status" = No outside dives.  

[Shiftygism]

Anyone have a properly proportioned Mat Pattern B pic?

I want a custom mat pattern while still keeping the extended apron look of style B.

EDIT: If I have to I can just take a screenshot of a B mat ring, and export a pic.

[DakkoN]

Jul 15, 2019 22:22:38 GMT Shiftygism said:

Anyone have a properly proportioned Mat Pattern B pic?

I want a custom mat pattern while still keeping the extended apron look of style B.

EDIT: If I have to I can just take a screenshot of a B mat ring, and export a pic.

You could try the old FPW Arena mats that I made and go from there.


imgur.com/uOcz56v


imgur.com/YXjmQMr

[Fuee]

Jul 15, 2019 22:22:38 GMT Shiftygism said:

Anyone have a properly proportioned Mat Pattern B pic?

I want a custom mat pattern while still keeping the extended apron look of style B.

EDIT: If I have to I can just take a screenshot of a B mat ring, and export a pic.

I measured this out a while back and use it as a guide for placing things on the apron:

i.imgtc.ws/1bXbPp2.png

It's not perfect, but it's pretty close

[Shiftygism]

Thank ya, thank ya!