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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 8, 2021 11:06:02 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated.
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Post by Lord Worm on Jan 8, 2021 12:56:47 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated. ...I cant even
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Post by gotchism4life on Jan 8, 2021 13:18:53 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated. You know if it happened to Biden, the Hardcore Leftists would have burned down the Capitol.
Yeah, that is what has my goat the most; not that Trump lost, but that there is something fishy that happened that no one is acknowledging. No one is questioning because for 4 years the media has been repeating "Orange Man Bad" so it's conditioning people to just dismiss Trump's claims.
For 4 years the media pushed "Russia interfered" and now just because a claim is made "This is mostest secure election evah!" by the fear mongering, propaganda media, we are supposed to take that at face value. Sorry, this guy refuses to shut up and drink his soy. There was something underhanded, and something sinister is on the way.
People griped about 2020 being bad? Ha. Nothing compared to what's coming.
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Post by kokushishin on Jan 8, 2021 16:19:20 GMT
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Post by bourbonjungle on Jan 8, 2021 17:14:39 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated. Counting was never supposed to stop on day 1. Trump told his base to vote in person during a pandemic, Dems mostly voted by mail. In person ballots were counted first then it took days to count all the legal mail in ballots. The early batches of votes skewed heavily towards Trump, the later batches skewed heavily to Biden and he caught up and surpassed Trump. There’s no proof of fraud, and no way to prove a lack of fraud that will satisfy the Trump die hards. The whole concept of objective truth is totally out the window.
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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 8, 2021 18:20:15 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated. Counting was never supposed to stop on day 1. Trump told his base to vote in person during a pandemic, Dems mostly voted by mail. In person ballots were counted first then it took days to count all the legal mail in ballots. The early batches of votes skewed heavily towards Trump, the later batches skewed heavily to Biden and he caught up and surpassed Trump. There’s no proof of fraud, and no way to prove a lack of fraud that will satisfy the Trump die hards. The whole concept of objective truth is totally out the window. What about the republican poll watchers who were kicked out? Why were the windows covered up in Detroit? What about the video showing people leave for the night and then more ballots are pulled out from under the tables? Then there is the video of the lady putting the same ballot through several times. In the middle of the night, after voting had stopped, thousands of votes went to Biden with Trump getting none. Maybe this, and all the other evidence, is all just coincidence. But to just ignore it and say there was nothing weird with this election is either ignorance or lying to yourself. If audits were done on the questionable states and they still give them to Biden okay, I'll accept the results and move on. But I have to question why there is so much resistance to auditing. If everyone is so sure there was no fraud then there should be no problem checking and recounting the votes. They've done it in past elections and it was never a problem. And just to be clear, I support Trump but I am in no way a die hard. There are things he has done I think are great but he has done some things that I disagree with.
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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 8, 2021 18:35:07 GMT
I agree with everything you wrote. It sickens me that Biden will be president, not because he's not on "my side", but because of the blatant cheating that happened during the election. I support Trump but if it was the other way around and Trump had gone from losing states to suddenly winning when counting was supposed to have stopped, I would be against him staying president. It's going to be hard living with the reality that an election can be stolen so easily. Worse is now that they have gotten away with it we can never trust an election again. Then again maybe something will happen, I just saw that the guy who programmed the Dominion machines came out admitting that they cheated. You know if it happened to Biden, the Hardcore Leftists would have burned down the Capitol.
Yeah, that is what has my goat the most; not that Trump lost, but that there is something fishy that happened that no one is acknowledging. No one is questioning because for 4 years the media has been repeating "Orange Man Bad" so it's conditioning people to just dismiss Trump's claims.
For 4 years the media pushed "Russia interfered" and now just because a claim is made "This is mostest secure election evah!" by the fear mongering, propaganda media, we are supposed to take that at face value. Sorry, this guy refuses to shut up and drink his soy. There was something underhanded, and something sinister is on the way.
People griped about 2020 being bad? Ha. Nothing compared to what's coming.
I remember the 2016 election and Trump said if he loses it might be because of cheating. Clinton, Obama, the media and everyone else on the left said you can't cheat the election. Trump wins, they accuse him of cheating the election. Now, like you posted above, they are saying the election can't be cheated. For four years they attacked him and us that support him. Now that they think Biden won, we all need to come together. Burning down buildings and looting, peaceful protestors. Break a few windows and walk into a building, some actually being led in by the police, terrorists. How some people don't see this hypocrisy. And yes I know this stuff happen on both sides of the aisle.
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Post by gotchism4life on Jan 8, 2021 19:33:52 GMT
Exactly, it's hypocrisy on both sides and both sides try to demonize the other.
On one side you have the hardcore psycho leftists that burn, loot and murder and want to bring communism. They are ignorant to the history of communism. In Communism the elite few still rule.
Then you have Democrats who are left center.
Then you have Republicans who are right center. In my own political views, I am center on some things and a soft right on others.
Then you have the far right crazies who wave confederate and nazi flags.
The Union won the civil war, why are they waving a Confederate Flag? The Nazis were vile, and the US opposed them (eventually), why are they waving a nazi flag when their parents or grandparents fought the nazis?
It's a mess. It's a bloody mess.
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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 9, 2021 5:41:08 GMT
Well, looks like the political talk is done. Which is a good thing because too much of it can divide people into groups. This is one of the few communities I've seen where people generally get along and I would hate to see it fall apart over something like this. I think in the end we can all agree that the government is just screwing us over and if we could all come together and show them we won't stand for it anymore maybe everyone would be a little happier. So let's get back to less explosive topics. Who wants to talk religion?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 6:27:12 GMT
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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 9, 2021 6:50:09 GMT
It's strange that Darth Vader doesn't look out of place.
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Post by gotchism4life on Jan 9, 2021 20:35:14 GMT
Well, looks like the political talk is done. Which is a good thing because too much of it can divide people into groups. This is one of the few communities I've seen where people generally get along and I would hate to see it fall apart over something like this. I think in the end we can all agree that the government is just screwing us over and if we could all come together and show them we won't stand for it anymore maybe everyone would be a little happier. So let's get back to less explosive topics. Who wants to talk religion? I'll up the ante and combine religion and politics...
Jesus is not a Republican, nor is He a Democrat.
One thing that sickened me was seeing a number of church leaders prophesy that Trump was going to win a second term.
Well, the election is a debacle, and even if Trump was suddenly declared the winner with fraud being uncovered, people would be doubtful. The whole election has a stink to it that has wounded the country.
Those who prophesied Trump's victory are awfully silent now. All they did was bring reproach to legitimate preaching and the legitimate use of the charismatic gift of prophecy.
I'm not sure which monk said it, but it was said by a certain monk in the middle ages that light always attracts bugs. So much false teaching has permeated Christianity, it's is sad, sickening and alarming...and infuriating.
One positive I see with the current cancel culture, media propaganda and Democrat lawmakers is that it sets the stage for potential widespread persecution to come to the Church. While persecution itself is unpleasant, history has shown the effects are beneficial in the long run.
It will separate the sincere from the insincere. Fake TV evangelists like Joel Osteen and Benny Hinn will go by the wayside.
For those that think persecution of the church won't happen...just one false flag like the Capitol...and Christianity can be outlawed in one vote.
If I suddenly stop posting my e-fed, I won't have committed suicide, it'll be because I was arrested for my faith. Of course, it'll be labeled as something sinister like "hate crime" or "sedition."
Epstein didn't kill himself, neither will I.
Rant done...it's out of my system.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 1:56:52 GMT
I held my tongue on the political stuff because I knew it would have been a wasted effort but I will this. While I have my own issues with what passes for mainstream Christianity as well, I also think the persecution complex is absurd. I'm a little too sleep deprived to be more eloquent than that at the moment, though.
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Post by jameshilliv on Jan 10, 2021 4:43:06 GMT
It does say in the Bible that Christians will be persecuted in the last days. There are some countries now where if you are caught with a Bible or having a gathering you can be killed. But it's true, put a person's life on the line and you will find out what kind of person they truly are.
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Post by gotchism4life on Jan 10, 2021 5:18:12 GMT
I held my tongue on the political stuff because I knew it would have been a wasted effort but I will this. While I have my own issues with what passes for mainstream Christianity as well, I also think the persecution complex is absurd. I'm a little too sleep deprived to be more eloquent than that at the moment, though. Feel free to send me a private message and we can rationally discuss why you think the persecution complex is absurd. I've no problem with sidebars as it will keep the main board free.
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